3 Things Phillies fans should know from this Dave Dombrowski interview
Phillies President of Baseball Operations, Dave Dombrowski, says he doesn’t think his reputation during his Red Sox years is “accurate.”
New Philadelphia Phillies President of Baseball Operations, Dave Dombrowski, has made a career of building teams up from nothing and doing whatever it takes to get impressive results.
He can turn you from a dud into a stud and get you to October.
It’s going to cost you, though. If the old adage “You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs” was a person, it would be Dombrowski.
At this point in his career (he got his start with the Chicago White Sox in 1978!), teams know that when you hire Dombrowski, he has a certain way of doing things, and you’ll get the best results from him if you stand back and let him. You’ll have a huge mess to clean up later, but you will enjoy the heck out of that omelet.
To put it bluntly, if you want results, hire Dombrowski. But be prepared for the mess he’s going to make to get the job done. To mix in yet another food metaphor, if you don’t want to know how the sausage gets made (or in this case, the Ballpark Franks), there are safer routes you can take.
On the other hand, having the best farm system in baseball means nothing if you never do anything with it when it counts. They don’t give out a trophy for that. Just ask the Tampa Bay Rays.
Ahead of this year’s draft earlier in July, Dombrowski told the Boston Globe that he doesn’t agree with the reputation he was saddled with when he departed Boston:
“I don’t think that’s accurate at all.” – Dave Dombrowski, Boston Globe
In his defense, it’s not exactly fair. Accurate, but not fair.
What’s the difference between accurate and fair?
Dombrowski’s reputation is accurate from a numbers perspective, in that when he was hired by the Red Sox in late August of 2015, they had the number-two farm system in baseball. Not even two full years removed from their third championship in a decade, Dombrowski inherited a bumper crop of prospects, David Ortiz, a healthy Dustin Pedroia, young stars Mookie Betts and Jackie Bradley Junior, and a significant portion of the 2013 championship team, vastly different than what he had to work with when he took over in Detroit.
When MLB.com‘s 2020 farm system rankings came out just a few months after he was unceremoniously fired during a Sunday Night Baseball game between the Red Sox and Yankees at Fenway Park in September 2019, the Red Sox were ranked 25th. They were labeled as “in a rebuilding phase,” less than two years after their historic season. For what it’s worth, the Red Sox have “rebuilt” twice in the decade since the Phillies’ last division title, and in that time, have won two championships.
Dombrowski bears the brunt of responsibility for that. The plundering of the farm system – the eggs in my metaphor – led to the big-league success, the omelet, if you will.
But the reason it’s not exactly fair is that the Red Sox knew what they were getting themselves into when they hired Dombrowski. It’s not like he came out of nowhere, or was a rookie hire like Theo Epstein had been. He was already a seasoned executive with a proven track record. The Red Sox ownership group made a decision to give him the reins, knowing full well that he would spend big and trade big.
What Phillies fans can learn from Dombrowski’s time with the Red Sox
The 2015 Red Sox finished the year 78-84, dead-last in the division. Dombrowski spent his first offseason making blockbuster moves, most notably, trading top prospects for Craig Kimbrel and signing David Price to what was then the richest pitching contract in MLB history. The 2016 Red Sox went 93-69 and won the division.
In the offseason preceding the 2017 season, Dombrowski again bundled some of the franchise’s best prospects in a megawatt trade, this time for Chris Sale. He also traded Clay Buchholz to the Phillies, one of many trades between the two teams that have not panned out for Philadelphia. Despite 2017 being the first season without the newly-retired David Ortiz, the Red Sox repeated – literally exactly – their 2016 performance, finishing 93-69 again, winning the division, and losing in the first round of the postseason.
After back-to-back Octobers of division titles and first-round exits, Dombrowski continued his pattern of making money moves. They replaced manager John Farrell with Houston Astros coach Alex Cora, who had played for Boston between 2005-2008. While they debated upon entering the Shohei Ohtani contest or trading for NL MVP Giancarlo Stanton – who had just had a 59-homer season – Dombrowski re-signed Eduardo Nuñez and the underrated Mitch Moreland.
Finally, a few days after the Sox had played their first Spring Training game of 2018, the club announced that they had signed JD Martinez to a five-year deal valued at $110 million. As the 2018 season progressed, including starting off 17-2, Dombrowski also traded Jalen Beeks to the Rays in exchange for Nathan Eovaldi, a move that would pay more dividends than the team ever could’ve imagined once October rolled around again.
The 2018 Red Sox won a franchise-record 108 games – the most by the club since they won 104 in 1912 and the most by any MLB team since the 2001 Seattle Mariners won 116 – and their third straight division title. But this time, they wouldn’t exit after the first round. They defeated the Yankees in the ALDS, the Astros in the ALCS, and the Dodgers in the World Series, their fourth championship in fifteen years.
All this to say that Phillies fans should be both eager and concerned by Dombrowski’s comments about his tenure in Boston. For one thing, the Detroit Tigers never won the World Series during his time, though he did transform them from a team that lost 119 games in 2003 (his second season at the helm), to a pennant-winning team in 2006, their first since their 1984 championship. They won the pennant again in 2012 and lost the pennant to the Red Sox in 2013.
The Tigers also drafted some dazzling pitching while Dombrowski was in charge: Justin Verlander (2004), Andrew Miller (2006), Rick Porcello (2007), as well as future stars such as Curtis Granderson and Nick Castellanos. Dombrowski just completed his first Phillies draft class, heavy on the pitching. The results of that will take a few years, but in the meantime, he can make some immediate upgrades.
Can Dave Dombrowski finally rebuild the Phillies?
The Phillies have been mired in attempted rebuild mode for almost a decade now, so this feels like the time to shake things up. Presumably, that’s why Dombrowski is here. He’s turned around some of the worst teams.
Every team in baseball goes through down years and rebuilding eras, but the Phillies’ postseason eras have been few and far between. Dombrowski had a lot more to work with when he came to Boston, and he still left an absolutely decimated farm system in his wake. By comparison, the Phillies farm system was ranked 23rd overall in March. Further depleting that to make a few upgrades is taking a big chance on this current team.
When it comes to making moves, Dombrowski epitomizes ‘go big or go home.’ Fans should just be aware of what it’s going to mean if he goes big.