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		<title>Nick Swisher Currently Being Wooed by Indians as Phillies Watch Silently from Afar</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Klugh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All that really matters is that at the moment, the Phillies are not "in" on a guy who they could really use, and naturally, someone else is.  And it seems like it's going quite well, despite the obvious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4><strong>Nick Swisher, who many have agreed would be the perfect corner-outfielding, power-hitting, <a href="http://calltothepen.com/2011/06/07/way-too-in-depth-analysis-of-the-swisherpapelbon-norelco-ad/">Norelco-wielding</a> player the Phillies are looking for, is apparently being held in Cleveland, apparently <a href="http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/12/nick_swisher_visits_indians_bl.html">under his own free will</a>.</strong></h4>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p>Told Progressive Field lights are on and Nick Swisher&#8217;s face is on scoreboard as team tries to land free agent, who is visiting today.</p>
<p>— Tom Withers (@twithersAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/twithersAP/status/281107896379506688" data-datetime="2012-12-18T18:45:19+00:00">December 18, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>The Indians, clearly a little out of their element in the &#8220;big name signing&#8221; pool and overcompensating to an almost ludicrous degree, appear to be the current &#8220;favorites&#8221; to land Swisher.</p>
<p>Swisher, coming from the Yankees market, may find the Indians oddly appealing, as he bothered to go all the way to them, instead of just wordlessly shaking his head and grimacing while his agent held his hand over the receiver and mouthed &#8220;<em>Cleveland</em>?&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps he sees the frail Cleveland sports culture as a vacation of sorts from the relentless lights and microphones and questions about why he sucks so god damn much in the playoffs that come from playing in anywhere in the northeast.</p>
<p>Or maybe they just made a hell of an offer and he&#8217;s geuinely entertaining the notion.</p>
<p>All that really matters is that at the moment, the Phillies are not &#8220;in&#8221; on a guy <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Dont-be-surprised-if-the-Phillies-end-up-signing-Nick-Swisher.html">who they could really use</a>, and naturally, someone else is.  And it seems like it&#8217;s going quite well, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM">despite the obvious</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_12496" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6585554.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-12496" title="MLB: Tampa Bay Rays at New York Yankees" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6585554-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Debby Wong-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>Now we all know that the less Ruben says about a player, the more likely it is that he will sneak in like a serpent and winding up signing the guy, hissing and flicking his tongue as he does it.  It&#8217;s weird.  But the Phillies have not really made a peep in the guy&#8217;s direction, and as we watch him get courted by the Indians, which is like, <em>whatever, </em>you have to wonder where we are on this one.</p>
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		<title>Oh, Josh Hamilton, We Barely Knew You</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Frey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As of Thursday afternoon, the Josh Hamilton isn&#8217;t really ever going to be a Phillie rumors were finally put to rest.  He is now, and will for the next five years, be a Los Angeles Angel of Anaheim (say that five times fast). There is nothing to really be upset about here, for anyone. We know that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_12432" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6616252.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-12432" title="MLB: Oakland Athletics at Texas Rangers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6616252-300x450.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Sep 25, 2012; Arlington, TX, USA; Texas Rangers center fielder Josh Hamilton (32) bats during the game against the Oakland Athletics at Rangers Ballpark. Oakland won 3-2. . Mandatory Credit: Kevin Jairaj-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p><strong>As of Thursday afternoon, the Josh Hamilton isn&#8217;t really ever going to be a Phillie rumors were finally put to rest.  He is now, and will for the next five years, be a Los Angeles Angel of Anaheim (say that five times fast).</strong></p>
<p>There is nothing to really be upset about here, for anyone. We know that five years is longer than pretty much every other team was willing to give Hamilton and his off the field issues.  And for $125 million, the risk was just too great.</p>
<p>But the reality is that someone was going to go to five years and that the Phillies would never have a shot.</p>
<p>The other reality is that Jon Daniels of the Rangers is somehow offended that he didn&#8217;t get a chance to counter offer.  Sometimes these folks that run MLB teams come across pretty naive   Did he really think that if Hamilton was blown away, he was going to come back to the Rangers, or just take the money and run? Hamilton did exactly what we would expect him to do.</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Jon Daniels says <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Rangers">#Rangers</a> did not get call to match Angels&#8217; offer. Daniels is not pleased with how negotiations ended.</p>
<p>— Jeff Wilson (@JeffWilson_FWST) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWilson_FWST/status/279307160922517504" data-datetime="2012-12-13T19:29:51+00:00">December 13, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>Now the Phillies have one less option.  Do they sign <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/swishni01.shtml" target="_blank">Nick Swisher</a> and give up a draft pick, or sign <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rossco01.shtml" target="_blank">Cody Ross</a>?  Does a trade for <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/soriaal01.shtml" target="_blank">Alfonso Soriano</a> suddenly look more appealing at $10 million?</p>
<p>The other intriguing portion of this Hamilton to the Angels deal is the potential availability of <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bourjpe01.shtml" target="_blank">Peter Bourjos</a> and<a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/trumbma01.shtml" target="_blank"> Mark Trumbo</a>.  Power hitting corner outfielder?  If he doesn’t cost the whole farm system, Mark Trumbo could be a pretty attractive option.</p>
<p>With only a few possibilities left, RAJ now has to make a move, or be left with the less-than-ideal in-house options.  Your move, Ruben.</p>
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		<title>Phast Phive: Exercises in Phutility</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Klugh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently none of that history is important to RAJ. Not that I think Brown is going to be a superstar, but this deal defies all logic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4><em>In which the writers of TBOH give you the business</em></h4>
<h3><strong><em></em>Justin Klugh</strong></h3>
<div id="attachment_12414" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 250px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6655866.jpg"><img class=" wp-image-12414 " title="MLB: ALCS-Detroit Tigers at New York Yankees" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6655866-300x415.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="332" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">*douche chill* Anthony Gruppuso-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>Ethan&#8217;s going to get to that Josh Hamilton mess in just a second, but throughout all of this, I have been yelling in my head a question:  WHY NO NICK SWISHER?  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, three, even two years ago, when my meds were far, <em>far </em>less effective, I would have hurled a cat in a mailbox if Swisher joined this team.</p>
<p>The cocky attitude, the &#8220;sports radio&#8221; voice, the constant smiling, the beating of us in the 2009 World Series.  None of it appealed to me.</p>
<p>But when you look at the real, hard numbers, that indicate the skill level of baseball being played, Swisher is an amicable option.  I mean he&#8217;s a total douche, and he K&#8217;s a bunch, but there&#8217;s some power coming from the right places.  Fortunately some people who aren&#8217;t insane today are <a href="http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/phillies-talk/Why-havent-Phillies-seemed-keen-on-Swish?blockID=812951&amp;feedID=693">asking the same question</a>.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, check out this list of hard-asses the Phillies should pursue to fill a rotation spot, according to Matt Gelb!</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Joe Saunders, Chris Young, Carl Pavano, Derek Lowe, John Lannan, Jair Jurrjens, Kevin Millwood, and Chien-Ming Wang.</p>
<p>&#8211;<a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20121212_Phillies_likely_to_seek_a_one-year_rental_for_rotation.html">Matt Gelb</a></p></blockquote>
<p><em>Woooooooooooooooooo doggy</em></p>
<h3><strong>Ethan Seidel</strong></h3>
<p>By now you have all read about the preposterous rumor that has the Phillies sending Dominic Brown to the Cubs for Alfonso Soriano. Remember when the Phillies were in on Soriano 5 years ago when he became a free agent? And remember when he was a bust and cost the Cubs tens of millions in sunk costs?</p>
<p>Apparently none of that history is important to RAJ. Not that I think Brown is going to be a superstar, but this deal defies all logic. If you don&#8217;t believe me, <a href="http://crashburnalley.com/2012/12/11/phillies-rumored-to-be-shopping-dom-brown/">read what Bill Baer has to say</a>.</p>
<p>Would you give Josh Hamilton $80 mil for 3 years? That&#8217;s what the Phillies are <a href="http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/12/12/report-phillies-offer-josh-hamilton-a-three-year-contract/">reportedly offering for Hamilton&#8217;s services</a>. 94WIP broke the news, but that&#8217;s not what&#8217;s important. Phillies fans, pay attention closely:  Josh Hamilton is not coming to Philadelphia.</p>
<p>I repeat, Josh Hamilton is not coming to Philadelphia.</p>
<p>Texas has too much to lose now if they can&#8217;t bring Hamilton back, after missing out on every big name available thus far.</p>
<p>IT&#8217;S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!</p>
<h3><strong>Ben Bernstein</strong></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.thegoodphight.com/2012/12/11/3752846/phillies-general-manager-praises-michael-youngs-adequacy">Pretty funny article about Michael Young</a>. Not everyone is too excited about the 36-year-old.  The trade really wasn&#8217;t that bad, but this interpretation of Ruben&#8217;s opinion of Young is great.</p>
<p>Get excited, boys and girls&#8211;2013 will be interesting.</p>
<h3><strong>Stephen Frey</strong></h3>
<div id="attachment_12416" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6510404.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-12416" title="USA TODAY Sports Sports" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/6/files/2012/12/6510404-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">It&#8217;s just nice to see then together again. Howard Smith-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>We can all agree that if Ruben Amaro, Jr. stops after the additions of Ben Revere and Michael Young (and subtraction of Vance Worley) the 2013 Phillies will once again be a flawed team. They are still in great need of a corner outfielder with power, a veteran relief pitcher, and a back of the rotation starter. However, our friend Todd Zolecki at MLB.com played everyone&#8217;s favorite game: <a href="http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2012/12/10/opening-day-lineup-take-1/#more-2134127">Name That Line-up (with the roster as currently constituted</a>).</p>
<p>The problem with Zolecki&#8217;s line-up is that it probably matches Uncle Charlie&#8217;s. He leaves Rollins in the lead off spot, puts Young second, platoons Dom Brown, Ruf, Nix, and Mayberry in the corners, and hits Revere 8th.</p>
<p>I would much rather use Revere at the top of the line-up and move Michael Young behind Howard as Manuel&#8217;s resident &#8220;professional hitter&#8221;. Until another legitimate cleanup hitter arrives, I believe the Utley-Howard 3-4 combination is still the best possible middle of the order.</p>
<p>Regardless, this may be an exercise in futility until game 26 when Chooch comes back and Ruben finds another outfielder.</p>
<h3><strong>John Stolnis</strong></h3>
<p>Hey, remember that time Jim Thome signed with the Phillies back in 2003 and they were still playing in the bowels of Veterans Stadium and no other free agent wanted to come here? That was cool. And remember that time when the Phillies brought him back to play one last season in Philadelphia to be a left-handed bench player/back-up first baseman even though his back was too messed up to actually play any first base? Right, that was last season. Hey remember that time the Phillies brought him back a third time to do, um, something? <a href="http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/phillies-talk/Jim-Thome-is-all-ears-Im-not-retired?blockID=812441&amp;feedID=4382&amp;utm_source=t.co&amp;utm_medium=referral" target="_blank">It hasn&#8217;t happened yet, but it might</a>.</p>
<div>Seriously though, Thome actually has more value this year because the Phils will be playing interleague games throughout the season, not just in June. Could be a valuable piece during those series.</div>
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<div>We&#8217;ve all seen the rumors about Josh Hamilton, Alfonso Soriano and other free agent/trade possibilities being linked to the Phillies, and it certainly seems as if the Phils are going to spend some money on, well, SOMETHING. But <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2012/12/12/mlb-top-remaining-free-agents-josh-hamilton-anibal-sanchez-michael-bourn/1761965/" target="_blank">these guys don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to be for one of the big boys</a>.</div>
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